LMS = Last man Standing
OC = Open Coop
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LMS
www.doom3coop.com
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Advantages:
-Items can be taken forever
-More player models
-Names showup on screen
-If you look on a player it says health
-If you look on a player it says kills
-Highscore Scoreboard

Disadvantages:
-VERY Laggy: Jumping, walking, shooting
-Spawned monsters spawns using IDLE animation
-UNLIMTED spawning (ruins coop feeling)
-UNLIMTED SUPPLIES (ruins the "only this leftt" feeling, (you can pick stuff up forever))
-Monster spawn point sometimes is visible making you think there's a monster there but there is not
-Monsters are strong
-Slow item respawn rate
-No difficulty levels
-Game MAINLY FOCUSED AROUND SCORES NOT "LETS GET OUTTA HERE ALIVE" <-- HUGE NONE COOP FEELING

Conclusion: 2/10
Game loses lots of points on "None coop feeling"

Information gathered:
Today
Ewz-clan server 1
1 Hour gameplay
60 Ping

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OC
www.d3opencoop.com
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Advantages:
-A whole pack on extra campaign with the playtime almost of normal Doom 3
-"Health Pool" when a player has max HP and pick it up health it is saved to be used if someone dies
-When you die and was only one left and 0 healthpool game over
-When healthpool is 0 noone can respawn (COOP FEELING)
-Not laggy
-Synced gameplay
-Different head models
-Spectrum colors for player models
-Monsters using correct animations
-Health shown on scoreboard
-No names showing where your friends are (COOP FEELING)
-Difficulty levels
Disadvantages:
-You can get stuck on a map (VERY RARE BUG)
-"Hellwave" game mode very badly done
-When spectating your spectator model is the weapon you died with(invisilbe if it was fists & grenades)
-Not much happening with developement

Conclusion: 8.5/10
Points stay up thanks to "Coop Feeling"
Information gathered:
1 ½ year of OC playing
Over 300 hours playtime
Polo's OC server
Average ping 30-60



Final Conclusion: SWITCH TO OPENCOOP EWZ


I think I have all of my UBCS mates on that OC is better than LMS

f2 for me i really enjoy lms sry

but i want try open coop what must i download for that then can i test it

OPENCOOP FTW!! It's a shame the devs are not currently working on the mod.

Although the mod is buggy (eg. kicks players to main menu often) it is a lot smoother than LMS. From what i heard, they ported over some of the netcode from Quake to make the game run smoother. They're done a brilliant job optimizing netcode.

Beleive it or not LMS is based on one of the early versions of OpenCoop before the new netcode was ported. If you look closely at the LMS credits, NiceMice is mentioned.

OpenCoop 1.1 is slightly more stable that 2 Alpha but only runs on doom 1.3.

OpenCoop encourages players to stick together more. Teamwork is key as respawns are limited by how much health is in the healthpool. Health is added to the pool when a player picks up a medkit under the following circumstances:
-Your health is above 30 (or is it 20?) and there's a player still waiting to respawn.
-Your health is 100. (No medkit is wasted so pick em up)

When there's 50 health in the pool, a dead player (if any) will respawn with that health. If all players die, one player will get the remaining health in the pool (whether it be 1 or 50). If you all die and there's 0 health in the pool, you obviously loose the game and need to restart the level.

I like this mod more than LMS because it's more survival based than competition. It also pees me off with how hostile some of the LMS community are towards the OpenCoop mod. They give this mod a bad reputation.

I've got my OpenCoop sever running but the PC running it is not fast enough so it becomes slow motion on some parts. I'm going to upgrade it's 1.7GHz Athlon and 1GB RAM as soon as i have the money but still, it'd be cool if we could host this on our shiny new EWZ ded server.

Phew long post.

nice but where can i find that mod?? :face:

ok thx polo i try it soon :face:

lms should be played for the additional gametypes, eg kill fest, defense.

But oc is better for singleplayer modes.

The insta respawning is a personal matter, but i like oc's healthpool system more than lms's infinite respawning. It adds more challange and makes you conserve your ammo. And you fight for your life, knowing that you might not respawn again. challange ftw.
btw, isn't it 25 hp before it adds to the health pool?

(ps, i feel a biased review polo )

i test oc now it looks nice for me

in LMS you said there is no difficulty level, what does that mean because i clearly see that there is one. And so what if monsters are harder, it just means its harder to play without dying.

in lms you can change the skill from 0 to 5 but if you play on skill 0 and server is full you plaay then on a higher skill automatic

Do we have a OC server because i've only seen LMS

im not sure i will check that for you smoke